Clean lines with warm water

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fob-detector-bleedWhen I took over, the last landlord showed me how he cleaned the lines, he used warm water. I have continued to do it this way now I am told by a Cellar Engineer that this is wrong and under no circumstances must I keep doing it this way, he couldn’t seem to give me a valid reason why not so I am asking is this right and if so why is this the case?

 

 

 

12 COMMENTS

  1. beer belly i don’t know why your cellar service tech told you not to clean your lines in warm water but that is the correct way !!!! you would not wash your dinner plates in cold water would you? im sure loads of tech on hear will tell you the same as me. warm water cleans better than cold unless your clean em with one of those new persil balls.

  2. The chemicals in beer line cleaner are formulated to work at standard temperatures i.e. 3-8C. Should you use warmer water then the chemicals will work equally as well and sometimes better. Breweries use warm cleans in the process as it removes the build ups better. Temperature will suppress the chemicals if it is too cold.

  3. if you follow the insructions on the cleaning fluid contanier it always says to use cold water ,once the water goes through remote cooler it will be cold anyway , so its a waste of time using warm water

  4. cold water is best i have never cleaned any lines with warm water. coils on remotes are not designed to with stand warm temps as the tanalising on the inside will get removed especially with cleaning fluid causing beers to have a foul taste after time this is reason why techs get told always cold water.

  5. When I took over, the last landlord showed me how he cleaned the lines, he used warm water. I have continued to do it this way now I am told by a Cellar Engineer that this is wrong and under no circumstances must I keep doing it this way, he couldn’t seem to give me a valid reason why not so I am asking is this right and if so why is this the case?

    I thought it was because of pressurised cleaning bottles, warm water increases the pressure therefore a health and safety issue.

  6. I would suggest that using warm water will have potentially costly negative effect on your coolers. If you are running warm water through the lines it will raise the temperature in the cooler which will have 2 effects;

    1. It will make the beer cooler work harder which is costing you on your energy bills.
    2. If the cooler is working harder then it will be creating warm air out put into the cellar, thus making the cellar cooler work harder with the same result to your energy bills.

    The more lines you have and the more cleans you perform the greater the cost. Not too mention the potential damage to the cooler and subsequent service costs.

  7. I would suggest that using warm water will have potentially costly negative effect on your coolers. If you are running warm water through the lines it will raise the temperature in the cooler which will have 2 effects;

    1. It will make the beer cooler work harder which is costing you on your energy bills.
    2. If the cooler is working harder then it will be creating warm air out put into the cellar, thus making the cellar cooler work harder with the same result to your energy bills.

    The more lines you have and the more cleans you perform the greater the cost. Not too mention the potential damage to the cooler and subsequent service costs.

    Mmmm….I can see your argument,by rights all the coolers should be turned off the night before a line clean if possible (sometimes on efficient coolers the water will freeze in the coils, certainly with the extra cold remote glycol units), even if you clean with cold water it will still melt ice I can’t see any damage been done that way, and any energy saving would be negligible if any. In fact the more ice that melts the better because this would reset the ice bank and prevent the overflow from becoming blocked, the water level rising and blowing the re-circ pump.
    :-/

  8. When you’ve finished your clean you then need to allow time for the cooler to return to operating temparature.

  9. Further to last answer,a flash cooler will not take long to return to operating temparature.In my own opinion it is not a good idea to shut down and restart a remote cooler.The ice bank,once degraded,takes a long while to build up and if it’s a purple Polarflow it’s an unreliable twat anyway.

  10. Cleaning fluid (even when dilute) is caustic, hence the need to wear all the neccesary P.P.E. (goggles gloves apron etc) and mixing with warm water only increases the Hazzard immensly and like previosly stated cleaning fluids are formulated to work at low temperatures so there is no need!

    By all means switch the cooling off the only reason not to is the product stored in the python will degrade but you are throwing this away anyhow and coolers cut in and out all the time so turning it off will not harm the equipment. so long as you remember to turn it back on a couple of hours before trying to dispense (a couple of days for a polaflow lol)

    Trained technicians will probably flush with warm water to soften any deposits prior to a cold Blitz clean, but if you clean your lines once a week, with reccomended cleaning fluid mixed to the correct ratio (follow the instructions on the container) you will not aquire deposits and will never need a Blitz

  11. Always use cold water when line cleaning! Warm water will damage your equipment, especially parts inside the taps on the bar. It also makes the line cleaner solution less effective.

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