Pipe cleaning

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Well my interview went really well and now on a short list of two. One question that arose was caller cleaning many beer pipes. I suggested that an average of 3 hours for cleaning pipes twice weekly? The committee seemed to think approximate 1 hour is surficent. Whois right.

Much appreciate your thoughts

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  1. 1177 wrote: Well my interview went really well and now on a short list of two. One question that arose was caller cleaning many beer pipes. I suggested that an average of 3 hours for cleaning pipes twice weekly? The committee seemed to think approximate 1 hour is surficent. Whois right.

    Much appreciate your thoughts

    Depending on how many lines there is, if they want good quality beer 2 1/2 hrs weekly wont be far out. There is no need to clean twice a week.

  2. I am new to this but. I do mine weekly pull fresh water thru put line cleaner on pull tha thru every 10 mins pull a bit more thru then after 1/2 hr back to nice clean water few pints of that then beer back on job done so may be an hr once a week.
    rob

  3. Hi
    Nice pics. I line clean for real ale every time my cask empties- one line clean, plenty of water – nice and clean pipes and saves wastage as my lines lose 2 pints every time. If I have an clean empty line i pull water through when I clean other lines. Kegs stuff I do once a week, altogether. Seems to work as people like my beer 🙂
    Good luck!

  4. 410 wrote: Hi
    Nice pics. I line clean for real ale every time my cask empties- one line clean, plenty of water – nice and clean pipes and saves wastage as my lines lose 2 pints every time. If I have an clean empty line i pull water through when I clean other lines. Kegs stuff I do once a week, altogether. Seems to work as people like my beer 🙂
    Good luck!

    Yes cask ale is different, Your right, I think it is good practice to clean the lines after every container or at least give it a really good flush with clean fresh water. And If you don’t shut the taps at every session the contaminated line could drain back and infect the new container causing it not to last as long. 8)

  5. I have 4 lines and 2 members of staff 1 hour (30mins closing up plus 30mins overtime) once a week. I pull through half the solution leave for twenty minutes then draw the rest and then double the water. Cask ales I do during the closing up shift no overtime. Does that sound reasonable?

  6. 767 wrote: I have 4 lines and 2 members of staff 1 hour (30mins closing up plus 30mins overtime) once a week. I pull through half the solution leave for twenty minutes then draw the rest and then double the water. Cask ales I do during the closing up shift no overtime. Does that sound reasonable?

    Sounds good for 4 lines, if the beer tastes good then you must be doing it right. The reason it takes me 2.1/2 to 3 hrs. I do 2 or 3 bars, I like to flush a lot of water through, I like to make sure I remove all the debris.

  7. If you are new to the trade the "experts" will tell you there is only one way to clean beer line – caustic
    !!!! well times have moved on and you now have another solution… Its safe, it saves you time, Money, Water and Beer.

    If you are a seasoned in the trade you will know how many pairs of jeans you have got through, how much time it takes and how you really dont like line cleaning. Well there is another way !!!! Oleonix Beer Line Cleaner. http://www.avanisolutions.co.uk check us out

  8. Please enlighten us AVANI as to what the working component of your product is.

    Edit:Just adding this.

    A cursory glance at your website reveals a veil of secrecy other than the Safety Data Sheet PDF which tells me that yours is a highly alkaline product.That is all it tells me.

    Part of what I do for a living is line cleaning.I am not going to use or recommend a product unless I know what it is.

    This forum is intended for instruction,enlightenment and the promotion of understanding within our horrific little worlds,not for the blatant cold calling advertising of a product of uncertain content.

    Alex.

  9. Looks like its one of the Bio type cleaners Tall Alex, they don’t tell you whats in them, there are a few types about as well as being expensive they have nowhere near the cleaning properties of the main stream cleaners.

  10. It’s difficult to explain the product’s properties without it sounding like a sales pitch (!), but here goes:

    Oleonix BLC is considerably LESS alkaline than all mainstream caustic beer line cleaners. That is due to its composition as a colloid, which is to say that it doesn’t contain any of the phosphates, solvents, caustics, peroxides or hypochlorates present in standard cleaning solutions. This makes it food-safe and eco-safe, and has been certified by Campden BRI.

    Oleonix BLC just opens up the options and provides licensees with alternatives to the plethora of "me-too" caustic cleaners. Someone mentioned that it might not be as effective as these, and that is simply not true. It is demonstrably quicker, and is proven to NOT eat into the beerlines, thereby extending the life of the equipment as well as preserving the quality of the beer. That’s why we’re so excited about it. Doesn’t mean to say you have to be excited too, it’s just that the same cleaning regime can be followed but in an eco-friendly way. It’s not often that we see new introductions to a market like this and we liken the innovation to the step-change that Dyson introduced to the vacuum-cleaner world.

    Naturally, Oleonix BLC is more expensive per litre, but users of the product have confirmed that the on-cost is more than compensated for through savings on beer, water and time. Trials are being conducted by customers that omit the use of water altogether in the flushing phase of the line-clean.

    And the only way to check this out for yourselves is to try it. That’s not a sales pitch, that’s just fact.

    Please do get in contact if you’d like to try it, and make your own mind up.

  11. I will agree with the others this forum is for solving problems in the Pub Trade and not for spamming people with a particular product. As for BIO cleaners, they have been around for a while, you seem to indicate this is something new here is a list of some others I have heard about.

    http://www.artemisbioclean.co.uk/beer-line-cleaner.html

    http://www.bonnymans.co.uk/products/product.php?categoryID=1429&productID=6449

    http://www.2flow.co.uk/2flowstake/?tag=steribev

    http://www.aquacure.co.uk/cgi-bin/scribe?showinfo=pp044

    I have a feeling this will come back to haunt you, once people have tried it and they come back on here to report, it might not be the publicity you would hope for, if it isn’t somewhere as good as the caustic cleaners I am sure they will let you know.

    My experience of BIO cleaners is they are very slow in removing biofilm, even if they do manage to, though they can be good sanitisers.

  12. Thank you Mr Hoppy, Its great that we can talk about it "in a forum type way" because it means we all have choice – we recognise that the Inn Doctor site is a excellent portal for the Trade to get balanced views about whats happening. The trade is tough enough without "spammers " taking the limelight. we are all doing the best we can with what we have. What you have done and what we are doing is highlighting the fact that we have choice, we are not saying we are better than anyone else, just that we are giving alternatives. We are just happy to be in an industry where good people understand that working together counts for something. The reason we are in the licensed trade is because its about people.

  13. Nowt up with caustic cleaners. Used properly what is the problem. As for the environment never mind beer line cleaner what about the amount of bleach used in a pub, toilets etc…

  14. One of my beer suppliers promised a free sample of the Eco friendly stuff over summer but it hasn’t come yet. Maybe Santa will bring it!

  15. HI Anni
    Who was the supplier and Ill arrange it for you or send it to you directly – as long of course as it was our stuff you wanted

    warmest regards

    M

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